299. The Best Underdog Story, LT1 v. LT2 workouts, 3 Tips for Health, Science on Supershoes and Slower Paces, and Structuring Training Weeks!

We washed all of our bowls THOROUGHLY before this great episode! A main topic was the story of US Ski Mountaineering at the Olympics, where Cam Smith and Anna Gibson had miraculous performances. 50 years from now, people will still be talking about this team with the impossible dream. And this one had extremely interesting science that had us asking lots of big questions. We talked about a study on supershoes for slower athletes, another on red blood cell damage after ultramarathons, and a final study on foam rolling in cyclists. The red blood cell study brought up a fascinating question on the role of science communication in the social media age. Plus there were tons of great topics! Other topics: the pee bowl controversy, Megan’s bike power breakthrough, David’s 3 tips on health challenges, why Alysia Liu might be our favorite athlete of all time, the SWAP training theory encyclopedia, LT1 v. LT2 workouts, when you’re ready to move up to ultras, balancing fun goals and long-term specificity, navigating grief, and our problems with excess intensity in some training approaches. Alysia Liu: “I love sharing my story, my art, and the process of creation. Even if I make mistakes, they don’t disappear. Something still remains. They still become part of the story. A bad story is still a story, and I think that’s beautiful.” That’s also what we say when we burp on the mic. We love you all! HUZZAH! -David and Megan Click "Claim Your Sponsorship" for 40% off at The Feed here: thefeed.com/swap Buy Janji's amazing gear: (code "SWAP") The Wahoo KICKR Run is the best treadmill on the market: (code “SWAP”) For training plans, weekly bonus podcasts, heart rate zones, articles, and videos: patreon.com/swap

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299. The Best Underdog Story, LT1 v. LT2 workouts, 3 Tips for Health, Science on Supershoes and Slower Paces, and Structuring Training Weeks! is an episode from Some Work, All Play by David Roche and Megan Roche.

This episode is 01:42:38 long.

This episode was published on Feb 24, 2026.

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