#456 — American Fascism

Sam Harris speaks with Jonathan Rauch about the emergence of fascism in American politics. They discuss Rauch's article, "Yes, It's Fascism," the 18 criteria of fascism, the glorification and unapologetic use of state violence, "might is right" foreign policy, the politicization of law enforcement, the complicity of the rich and powerful, blood and soil nationalism, the influence of Carl Schmitt, the resilience of American institutions, and other topics. If the Making Sense podcast logo in your player is BLACK, you can

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#456 — American Fascism is an episode from Waking Up with Sam Harris by Waking Up with Sam Harris.

This episode is 21:05 long.

This episode was published on Feb 4, 2026.

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