#471 — The End of History, Revisited

Sam Harris speaks with Francis Fukuyama about liberal democracy, American politics, and global order. They discuss the misunderstood thesis of "The End of History," how conservatism has mutated into ethno-nationalism, the self-defeating extremes of both identity politics and neoliberalism, the damage of Trump's second term, the war in Iran, the future of Israel, antisemitism on the left and right, and other topics. If the Making Sense podcast logo in your player is BLACK, you can

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#471 — The End of History, Revisited is an episode from Waking Up with Sam Harris by Waking Up with Sam Harris.

This episode is 18:45 long.

This episode was published on Apr 16, 2026.

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