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Radio and PodcastLive Radio & PodcastsWhen Jason's revenue dropped 25%, his first instinct was to blame the dashboard. Kevin Lawrence's response? "That's crap. Dashboards are a distraction. Give me a pencil and paper." In 60 seconds, he found the real proble...
Why Your Tools Are Distracting You From (Actually) Growing — Kevin Lawrence is an episode from Selling with Love by Jason Marc Campbell. When Jason's revenue dropped 25%, his first instinct was to blame the dashboard. Kevin Lawrence's respo...
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Published Jun 9, 2026, 36:01 long, audio available.