INTENTIONAL AMATEURISM: In Defense Of Dabbling with Karen Walrond

After a short micro-break, Katie returns with author, lawyer, leadership coach, and all-around light-maker Karen Walrond to celebrate the joy of being an INTENTIONAL AMATEUR. Instead of hustling every interest into a side-gig, Karen invites us to dabble for the love of it — no end game required. They unpack why hobbies matter, how to find ones that actually feel like relief, and the seven attributes that make play a true self-care practice. IN THIS EPISODE WE DISCUSS: Why Karen resists the "be better" subtext of self-help when it comes to hobbies Reclaiming the word "amateur" The 7 attributes of intentional amateurism Why it's okay (and healthy) to stay mediocre and never become an "expert" Dabbling vs. committing, and how to notice when something is life-giving hard (stretch) vs. depleting hard (pressure/perfectionism). and more! ~ SHOW NOTES: Get the book: Karen's website: THE MAKE LIGHT JOURNAL on Substack: Join us in NYC on 10/14! ~ Karen on the WANTcast talking RADIANT REBELLION Karen on the WANTcast talking about THE POWER OF NOT KNOWING Karen on the WANTcast talking about BEING YOURSELF NO MATTER WHAT ~

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INTENTIONAL AMATEURISM: In Defense Of Dabbling with Karen Walrond is an episode from WANTcast: The Women Against Negative Talk Podcast by Katie Horwitch.

This episode is 56:38 long.

This episode was published on Oct 8, 2025.

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