How to Deal with a Narcissist

Narcissism is a term that gets used constantly - but what does it actually mean in psychological terms, and how is it shaping our society? In this episode, Dr. Phil Stieg speaks with leading expert Dr. Keith Campbell to separate myth from science. Drawing from his book The New Science of Narcissism , Dr. Campbell explains the difference between everyday self-focused traits and the far rarer personality disorder, unpacks the two distinct expressions of grandiose and vulnerable narcissism, and explores how these patterns influence our relationships, leadership, parenting, and culture. Plus, let's spend some time with the "O.G." narcissist. For more information, transcripts, and all episodes, please visit For more about Weill Cornell Medicine Neurological Surgery, please visit

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How to Deal with a Narcissist is an episode from This Is Your Brain With Dr. Phil Stieg by Dr. Phil Stieg.

This episode is 32:57 long.

This episode was published on Feb 20, 2026.

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