641: The science of real optimism & why positivity is holding you back Deepika Chopra, Ph.D.

This podcast was created in sponsorship with Toyota. Find a vehicle that makes memorable moments happen, from the 2026 RAV4 and Sienna to the Highlander and Grand Highlander. Plan the trip, pack the trunk, gather your crew, and go places—together. Toyota: People are the destination. "Emotional flexibility is literally the skill that we all should be sharpening like a muscle," explained Deepika Chopra, Ph.D. Chopra (widely known as The Optimism Doctor) is a clinical health psychologist, visual imagery expert, and author of the upcoming book The Power of Real Optimism. But here's what makes Deepika's work so different: she's not selling you positivity. In this episode, we get into the real science of optimism—and why it has far more to do with resilience and curiosity than with good vibes. Optimism vs. positivity: what we're getting wrong (0:00) Why affirmations don't always work (6:58) The seven-tenths rule for effective affirmations (10:00) Manifestation and getting what you expect (10:50) Emotional flexibility: the skill to sharpen like a muscle (17:46) Why the nervous system has to feel safe before growth can happen (23:11) Deepika's son's rare diagnosis (23:40) A Holocaust survivor with real optimism in practice (36:58) Letting go of control vs. reclaiming agency (40:52) Healthy hope vs. delusion—the dark room metaphor (42:45) Referenced in the episode: Find Deepika Chopra on her website: Get her book here: Find her viral article from 2018 here: Gallup National Health and Well-Being Index (2026): We hope you enjoy this episode, and feel free to watch the full video on YouTube! Whether it's an article or podcast, we want to know what we can do to help here at mindbodygreen. Let us know at: podcast@mindbodygreen.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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