
We Need Creativity & Saxophone Solos with John Green
Sep 22, 2026 - 43:50
Radio and PodcastLive Radio & Podcasts
Penn and I have joked about gentle parenting on this podcast more than once. As Gen X parents, it always sounded a little... soft. So when parenting coach Jon Fogel joined us, we figured we'd have a lively debate. Instea...