With Dede Laugesen, Charmaine Heading, Nadine Menza, Matt Chancey & Rod D. Martin

Dede Laugesen, CEO & President at Save the Persecuted Christians, Charmaine Heading, Executive Director, The Shai Fund & Nadine Menza, President, The IRF Secretaria I spoke with three extraordinary heroes in the fight against persecution of Christians, Dede Laugesen, Nadine Menza, and Charmaine Heading, talked about how President Trump needs to apply the very important principles that he has just laid down about Nigerian Islamists killing Christians with respect to his visitor on the 10th of November Ahmed al-Sharah, a Syrian jihadist who has been doing exactly the same thing, at least until he became president of Syria, and possibly still. Matt Chancey, Director of The Persecution Project I talked with Matt Chancey about the appointment and now the installation of Brent Boazel as the ambassador of the United States to South Africa, one of the continent's most important nations and one of our most important patriots is now representing our country there. We are hopeful that this will portend not only very important course corrections in American policy towards the tip of the African continent, the southern tip, but also for other nations throughout that continent, best understood to have within many of them pro-American elements who are generally not being well treated and whom we can lift up and work with. Rod D. Martin, Chairman of The Board, Institute for The American Future I had a fascinating conversation with Rod Martin about the elections that have just taken place. He points out that blue candidates won in blue states. Not exactly a surprise, but does it portend trouble ahead for Donald Trump? And if so, what he and the Republican Party must do now. We also talked about the Supreme Court hearing about the president's authority to issue regulations and issue licenses and associate fees with the import of certain products. Clearly, a constitutional prerogative, one that has been upheld by the Court in the past, as I understand it, rather than using tariffs to raise revenue, which would, according to many members of the Court, it seems, interfere with the legislative branch's responsibilities. You're going to want to watch this space, because this is a very, very important case and will have huge implications for not only this presidency but for the country as well.

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With Dede Laugesen, Charmaine Heading, Nadine Menza, Matt Chancey & Rod D. Martin is an episode from Securing America with Frank Gaffney Podcast by Secure Freedom Radio with Frank Gaffney.

This episode is 47:58 long.

This episode was published on Nov 7, 2025.

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