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So many of us learn early in our careers to put on a kind of professionalism, a polished version of ourselves that keeps us safe, earns approval, and helps us fit into the rooms we enter. But over time, that same persona...
165 Letting Yourself In the Room: Authenticity, Safety & the Masks We Wear Ken De Loreto is an episode from Real Business Real Lives by Barbara Patterson. So many of us learn early in our careers to put on a kind of professionalism, a polis...
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So many of us learn early in our careers to put on a kind of professionalism, a polished version of ourselves that keeps us safe, earns approval, and helps us fit into the rooms we enter. But over time, that same persona can become a quiet constraint. It creates distance. It limits our expression. And it costs us connection, with ourselves and with others. In this week’s episode, I'm joined by Ken De Loreto , Founder of Provoke Learning , long-time facilitator of leadership and learning, and co-host of the GenX at 60 podcast. Over his 38 years of working with organizations and leaders, Ken has taken a profound journey from performing and “earning the right” to reveal himself… to beginning from who he really is. Ken shares about the masks he used to rely on, the inner protector he learned to listen to, and the surprising freedom that opened up when he stopped trying to be who he thought others needed him to be. We explore the relationship between authenticity and professionalism, the longing we all have to belong, and the ways we quietly limit ourselves without even realizing it. This conversation is for anyone who has ever felt pressure to manage their image, prove their worth, or hold back the truer parts of themselves. This episode invites you to trust yourself a bit more and to let a little more of you into the room. Thank you for listening to the Innerverse of Business and Life Podcast. For more resources like this, visit Barb's website at Barbarapatterson.com . SHOW NOTES: [00:00] - The Journey of Transformation [04:44] - Unmasking Professionalism [07:51] - The Cost of the Mask [10:47] - Finding Safety in Authenticity [13:46] - The Courage to Be Real [16:32] - Shifting Perspectives on Professionalism [19:50] - The Dance of Authenticity and Professionalism [25:31] - The Balance of Professionalism and Authenticity [28:50] - Exploring Organizational Culture and Hidden Rules [31:46] - The Journey to Authentic Leadership [35:53] - Transformation Through Vulnerability [42:31] - The Power of Connection and Self-Expression SHOW LINKS: Provoke Learning Website Listen to the Gen X at 60 Podcast Connect with Ken on Linkedin
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165 Letting Yourself In the Room: Authenticity, Safety & the Masks We Wear Ken De Loreto is from Real Business Real Lives by Barbara Patterson.
Published Nov 20, 2025 and 50:41 long