194. That’s Not How It Happened: A Novel By Craig Thomas

In this episode, we sit down with How I Met Your Mother co-creator Craig Thomas to talk about his new novel, That’s Not How It Happened. The novel is about a family whose lives are thrown into turmoil when a Hollywood producer turns their story into a movie, forcing them to confront their differing perspectives on their past and the challenges of raising their son, Emmett, who has Down syndrome. It was inspired by Craig’s son, Elliott, who lives with a rare condition called Jacobsen Syndrome and is on sale starting November 4, 2025. We were introduced to Craig through our dear friends Jenna Fischer and Angela Kinsey, the hosts of the Office Ladies podcast. Jenna and Angela have been such loyal supporters of If We Knew Then and we’re so grateful to them for connecting us with Craig. That introduction led to a heartfelt and honest conversation that we are excited to share with you. You can order Craig Thomas's new book from major booksellers like Barnes & Noble , Amazon.com , HarperCollins Publishers , and other retailers. Also, check out Craig’s How I Met Your Mother rewatch podcast called How We Made Your Mother, which he co-hosts with Josh Radnor. Episode Transcript: Please

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194. That’s Not How It Happened: A Novel By Craig Thomas is an episode from If We Knew Then - A Down Syndrome Podcast by Stephen and Lori Saux.

This episode is 59:59 long.

This episode was published on Nov 3, 2025.

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