202 - Detransitioned After Three Decades as a Trans Man, with Jessi

Sasha and Stella welcome Jessi, a 69-year-old detransitioned butch lesbian, who shares her extraordinary life story. Jessi’s journey challenges misconceptions about detransitioners, confronting the common assumption that they are predominantly young people who transitioned in adolescence. Instead, her experiences shine a light on older individuals who made these life-altering decisions in vastly different cultural and social contexts. Her life as a gay rights advocate, shaped by threats and hardships, reveals the complexities behind her decision to transition during a time when living openly as a gender non-conforming lesbian carried significant risks. This episode offers a compelling exploration of the varied paths of detransitioners, and provides a thoughtful reflection on the broader social and psychological complexities of navigating life outside traditional gender norms. For links and resources relevant to this episode, access the full show notes at . Buy Our Book – When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Guide for Thoughtful Parents at Join Our Listener Community to Access Exclusive Content at Support the Show at Join the conversation on YouTube at For more information about Sasha’s & Stella’s parent coaching membership groups, visit: Sasha Ayad: Stella O’Malley: To learn more about our sponsors, visit: Therapy First at Genspect at This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit

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202 - Detransitioned After Three Decades as a Trans Man, with Jessi is an episode from Gender: A Wider Lens Podcast by Sasha Ayad and Stella O'Malley.

This episode is 74:49 long.

This episode was published on Jan 24, 2025.

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