GA 629 Why Leadership Is Like Cooking with Pete Behrens

This week’s guest is Pete Behrens. Ron and Pete discussed Pete’s book, “Into the Fog,” what it means for leaders to face uncertainty, why leadership is like cooking, and more. An MP3 audio version of this episode is available for download here . In this episode you’ll learn: Pete’s quote (2:10) His background (3:15) Why people are the biggest source of variability (6:57) What Pete means by “into the fog” (9:50) Pete’s approach (14:14) What’s better than sitting still (17:59) Why leadership is like cooking (22:07) The constraints Pete is seeing (28:41) Pete’s final words of wisdom (32:32) Podcast Resources Right Click to Download this Podcast as an MP3 Into the Fog Get All the Latest News from Gemba Academy Our newsletter is a great way to receive updates on new courses, blog posts, and more. Sign up here . What Do You Think? What does venturing “into the fog” look or feel like for you?

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GA 629 Why Leadership Is Like Cooking with Pete Behrens is an episode from Gemba Academy Podcast: Lean Manufacturing | Lean Office | Six Sigma | Toyota Kata | Productivity | Leadership by Ron Pereira: Lean Thinker & Co-Founder of Gemba Academy.

This episode is 35:19 long.

This episode was published on Apr 23, 2026.

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