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Most agency owners think building a successful business means becoming the CEO, but many never escape the operator role. John talks with Jason Swenk about the five stages agency founders go through as they scale from ove...
The 5 Stages From Operator to Owner is an episode from Duct Tape Marketing by John Jantsch. Most agency owners think building a successful business means becoming the CEO, but many never escape the operator role. John talks with Jason Swenk...
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Published May 13, 2026, 22:32 long, audio available.