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Dishonesty for the Sake of Humility

Daily Halacha Podcast - Daily Halacha By Rabbi Eli J. Mansour by Torah Learning Resources.

The Gemara (Bava Mesia 23b) establishes that a Torah scholar is permitted to speak untruthfully in regard to three matters, one of which is "Masechet." Rashi explains that if a scholar is asked whether he has thoroughly...

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Dishonesty for the Sake of Humility is an episode from Daily Halacha Podcast - Daily Halacha By Rabbi Eli J. Mansour by Torah Learning Resources.. The Gemara (Bava Mesia 23b) establishes that a Torah scholar is permitted to speak untruthful...

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The Gemara (Bava Mesia 23b) establishes that a Torah scholar is permitted to speak untruthfully in regard to three matters, one of which is "Masechet." Rashi explains that if a scholar is asked whether he has thoroughly studied a certain Masechet, he is permitted to untruthfully answer in the negative in order to avoid sounding boastful about his proficiency. The Gemara's teaching, then, instructs that when necessary, one is allowed to distort the truth for the sake of humility, in the interest of concealing one's achievements. Both humility and honesty are critically important religious values, but sometimes they might clash. And when they do, the value of humility overrides honesty, and one may untruthfully deny his accomplishments in order to remain humble. Interestingly, however, the Hida (Rav Haim Yosef David Azulai, 1724-1806) noted that not everyone accepts this interpretation of the Gemara. The Rambam understood the Gemara to mean that a scholar can dishonestly deny having learned a Masechet to avoid being questioned about that Masechet. If a scholar fears that he will be asked about a certain Masechet and then suffer embarrassment when he is unable to answer questions about the topic, then Halacha allows him to avoid embarrassment by saying that he had not yet studied the material. According to the Rambam's reading of the Gemara, it does not provide a source for allowing dishonesty in the interest of humility. Regardless, the Hida brings a different source – the story told in the Gemara (Ketubot 77b) of Rabbi Yehoshua Ben Levi's encounter with Rabbi Shimon Bar Yohai in Gan Eden. Rabbi Shimon asked Rabbi Yehoshua if a rainbow ever appeared in the sky during his lifetime, and Rabbi Yehoshua Ben Levi said that indeed it did. A rainbow is an inauspicious sign, indicating G-d's anger, that He considered bringing another flood, and so it does not appear in the lifetime of especially pious Sadikim whose merit sustains the world. Rabbi Yehoshua Ben Levi was indeed on this unique level, and a rainbow never appeared during his lifetime, but he answered in the affirmative in the interest of humility. This shows that it is permissible to speak untruthfully for the purpose of concealing one's achievements. Others cite the Yosef Ometz (by Rav Yosef Yuzpa, Germany, 1570-1637) as advancing a different line of reasoning. Halacha famously allows distorting the truth for the sake of peace. If being precisely truthful will cause tension or hostility between people, then the value of maintaining harmony supersedes the value of honesty, and it is preferable to speak imprecisely. The Yosef Ometz reasoned that this can be applied also to humility, because arrogance causes tension to the soul. An arrogant person is at odds with himself, whereas the humble person is at peace with himself. Therefore, the rule allowing dishonesty for the sake of peace can be extended to allow speaking dishonestly for the sake of maintaining humility, as maintaining humility means maintaining inner peace. The Ben Ish Hai (Rav Yosef Haim of Baghdad, 1833-1909), in his Ben Yehoyada (Bava Mesia 23b), suggested a different proof, from the story told in Masechet Baba Batra (8a) about Rabbi Yonatan falsely denying his scholarly achievements. However, the Ben Ish Hai then refutes this proof, noting that in that story, Rabbi Yonatan needed to speak untruthfully to avoid deriving benefit from his scholarly status. As it is strictly forbidden to use one's Torah scholarship for personal gain, it was necessary for him to falsely deny his credentials, and so this does not prove that one may do so in the interest of humility. Nevertheless, Halacha indeed allows one to falsely deny his spiritual and scholarly achievements for the sake of humility. It is worth adding in conclusion that as important as it is to be humble, and to conceal one's achievements, it is equally important to strive for greatness so that one has something to hide. Indeed, it is no coincidence that Moshe Rabbenu is described as the humblest of all men – precisely because he was the greatest of all men. It is because he had what to be humble about – more than any other person in world history – that he was able to excel in humility by concealing his greatness. The Sages famously explain that G-d chose to give the Torah specifically on a relatively low mountain – Mount Sinai – as opposed to the taller mountains in the region, in order to teach us the importance of humility in Torah study and practice. The Sefat Emet (Rav Yehuda Aryeh Leib Alter of Ger, 1847-1905) noted that although G-d wanted to teach us humility, He decided to give the Torah on a mountain, and not in a valley, or a canyon. The reason, the Sefat Emet explains, is because Hashem wants us to strive for great heights, to achieve greatness, to excel to the very best of our ability, to rise like a mountain – but while maintaining our humility. This is the symbolism of Mount Sinai – a mountain that extends into the air, but not as high as other mountains, showing us that we are to strive for excellence while concealing our accomplishments rather than putting them on display.

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