This Changes Everything #15: New Types of Trips and Travel Styles

Travel is bouncing back, but there’s still plenty we don’t know about how the pandemic -- and new variants of the coronavirus -- will play out, either here in California or overseas. And those big unknowns are still dramatically shaping the future of travel. We talk with two California-based travel experts who have been on the road this year about what to expect for local, domestic and international travel, what’s quickly going back to normal, what may be changing permanently, and what’s still to be determined. GUESTS * Julia Cosgrove, vice president and editor in chief of Afar Media ( * Hugh Garvey, editor in chief of Sunset Publishing ( PODCAST PLAY-BY-PLAY * 0 to min - Intro to California Groundbreakers, and this episode * 5:25 min - How the pandemic has changed travel trends and people's preferences since shutdown started * 11:10 min - What travel in California looks like now * 16:50 min - How shortages (i.e., rental cars, restaurant employees) are going to affect your travel plans * 19:35 min - New and different types of trips that are now in style * 27:35 min - Will plane travel be any different or go back to the (unfortunate) norm? * 33:50 min - The future of the cruise industry * 36:55 min - How "working from home" and "digital nomads" are reshaping travel * 41:40 min - Julia and Hugh pick the best California trip to take (after the summer is over) RESOURCE GUIDE * Arundhati Roy's travel essay, "The Portal Is a Pandemic," that Julia cited - * Nominate a place or a person for Sunset Magazine's Travel Awards 2021 by July 16 - * What to know about camper van rentals - *Santa Ynez Valley - * Bell's Restaurant in Los Alamos - * White Water Lodge in Cambria -

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This Changes Everything #15: New Types of Trips and Travel Styles is an episode from California Groundbreakers by California Groundbreakers.

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This episode was published on Jul 4, 2021.

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