Where Does Deportation Come From?

Deportation has impacted communities across California and the country, and has become the face of U.S. immigration policy today. At the culmination of a year marked by violent ICE raids, it’s crucial to understand how we got to this point, and what may lie ahead. Part origin story, part forecast, this conversation between historian and MacArthur Fellow Kelly Lytle Hernández and filmmaker and MacArthur Fellow Alex Rivera illuminates the history of deportation. The pair discuss the first man to be deported under the 19th-century Chinese Exclusion Act, reach further back in time to consider that law’s predecessors, and, finally, return to the present day to pose questions about the future of U.S. banishment. Is deportation an anomaly of our modern era, or does it reflect the very heart of this country’s history? Who is targeted for deportation in America, and why? And where should we look for reform or respite—resistance groups, the courts, political leaders? This program is co-presented by Zócalo Public Square, the MacArthur Foundation, Times of San Diego, and Bread & Salt, as part of Zócalo’s series “What Connects California?,” marking the 175th anniversary of California’s statehood.

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Where Does Deportation Come From? is an episode from Zócalo Public Square by Zócalo Public Square.

This episode is 01:07:55 long.

This episode was published on Jan 8, 2026.

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