The Making of a Moral Leader: The Story of Chaplain Colonel Shabazz

In this three-part series, Ray sits down with Chaplain Colonel Khallid Shabazz — a Muslim chaplain, a combat-tested officer, and a man who has spent his career navigating faith, duty, and the contradictions of military life. Through candid conversation and hard-earned truth, Ray explores what it means to serve a country that doesn’t always serve you back, and how a Black Muslim officer carries moral authority inside an institution built on hierarchy, obedience, and tradition. This series digs into the personal cost of leadership, the ethical weight of orders, and the quiet courage required to speak truth inside a system that often prefers silence. It’s a story about faith under pressure, conscience in uniform, and the long shadow of American history — told through the life of a man who has lived all three. Visit Ray at .

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The Making of a Moral Leader: The Story of Chaplain Colonel Shabazz is an episode from What's Ray Saying? by Ray Christian.

This episode is 16:56 long.

This episode was published on Mar 25, 2026.

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