NXIVM Aftermath - Jessica Joan Returns: "Not My Monkey, Not My Circus"

Four years after we first met her in our studio - just days after her victim impact statement in Alison Mack's NXIVM trial - Jessica Joan is back. Since we last spoke, Jessica shared her story on the Hulu docuseries "How I Escaped My Cult" , and a lot has shifted: in her healing, in what "justice" means, and in what accountability actually looks like over time. This follow-up conversation was prompted by our recent interview with journalist Natalie Robehmed, host of the podcast "Alison After NXIVM" , where listeners hear Alison speak publicly about NXIVM and her life post-prison. After that episode, it felt important to come back to Jessica - to hear directly from someone harmed by Alison, and to explore the messy questions of empathy, forgiveness, and what we're really asking for when we say we want "accountability."

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NXIVM Aftermath - Jessica Joan Returns: "Not My Monkey, Not My Circus" is an episode from Was I In A Cult? by PodcastOne.

This episode is 41:46 long.

This episode was published on Jan 5, 2026.

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