Ways and Means

A simple walk can change a life and a place. Join Wander Woman Phoebe Smith as she head's to Umbria to undertake part of Italy’s lesser-known pilgrim path - the St Francis Way - and see how it is bringing life back into the region. In association with this episode's podcast partner Sloways . From truffle hunts on the village edges to choirs echoing through convents, to ridge walks above Assisi and stamps in a well-worn pilgrim passport, this journey shows how slow travel creates real ties between people and landscape. Also coming up: Co-founder of the British Pilgrimage Trust Guy Hayward about his mission to change the path of walks with purpose to enable everyone to bring their own beliefs... Travel Hack: How to have a meaningful pilgrimage Top 10 non-religious pilgrimages around the world Meet Andrea Devicenzi – the Italian Paralympic cyclist who is using pilgrimages to change people's perceptions about disability Gear chat: what to pack when doing activities in very hot weather Margery Kempe - pilgrim and author of the first memoir in history is our Wander Woman of the Month Contact Wander Woman @PhoebeRSmith

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Ways and Means is an episode from Wander Woman: A Travel Podcast by Phoebe Smith.

This episode is 51:35 long.

This episode was published on Oct 29, 2025.

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