The psychedelic that has mental health therapists and lawmakers intrigued

Using psychedelics in mental health treatment has been gaining legitimacy in recent years. Now, a little-known substance called ibogaine has some addiction counselors wanting to learn more about the benefits and dangers of ibogaine therapy. We hear from Vermont state representative Brian Cina , a Progressive-Democrat from Burlington who wants Vermont to use opioid settlement funding to pursue ibogaine research. He introduced a bill about it this year. We're also joined by Dr. Rick Barnett , the former chair of Vermont’s psychedelic advisory committee and a clinical psychologist in Stowe. He says ibogaine can help with trauma, addiction, and depression. We also learn about what happens when you take ibogaine with Roger Guest , a mental health and addiction therapist who moved from Springfield, Vt. to Mexico to work with an ibogaine clinic. Broadcast live on Thursday, Apr. 9, 2026, at noon; rebroadcast at 7 p.m. Have questions, comments or tips? Send us a message or check us out on Instagram .

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