AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy

Now that we've had a few days to digest the Apple CEO succession news, Nilay and David get some help from Daring Fireball's John Gruber to discuss Tim Cook's legacy, the potential for change under John Ternus, and whether the Touch Bar actually could have been great. Then, Nilay and David react to some breaking news: Microsoft is going back to the Xbox. And everything is an Xbox now. Finally, in the lightning round, we have a round of Brendan Carr is a Dummy, a very 2026 new microphone, a BMW we can't figure out, and Meta's new AI training tool: its employees. We’re also on video! Check us out on YouTube.

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AirPods, Touch Bars, and the rest of Tim Cook's legacy is an episode from Vergecast by Vox Media Podcast Network.

This episode is 98:29 long.

This episode was published on Apr 24, 2026.

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