612: 'That Leader is John Ternus'

Subtitle: Apple at 50 Draft (based on vibes) Breaking news! Apple announces that Tim Cook's tenure as CEO is ending, and John Ternus and Johny Srouji get promotions. And when that's done, we finish our Apple at 50 coverage with a vibe-based draft. This episode of Upgrade is sponsored by: DeleteMe : Get 20% off your plan when you use this link and code UPGRADE20. Squarespace : Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code UPGRADE. Steamclock : We make great apps. Design and development, from demos to details. NerdWallet : Compare real financing offers from trusted lenders — all in one place. Get VIP treatment using this link. Links and Show Notes: The picks (spoilers) Jason : iPhone original Myke : iPod mini Jason : MacBook Air (late 2010) Myke : M2 MacBook Air Jason : LaserWriter Myke : iPhone 6 Plus Jason : PowerBook (first generation) 100/140/170 Myke : Original iPad (2010) Jason : Apple IIe Myke : iPod nano Jason : iPod 4th generation Myke : iPhone X Jason : iMac G4 Myke : iMac G3 Jason : Apple Pencil (second generation) Myke : Apple Pencil (first generation) Jason : MacBook Neo Myke : Mac 128K Jason : AirPods Pro Myke : AirPods Pro 2 Jason : iPad Pro M4 Myke : iPad Mini 2 (Retina, 2013) Jason : Magic Keyboard for iPad Pro Myke : Apple Watch Series 4 Jason : Macintosh SE/30 Myke : Polycarbonate MacBook (2006) Jason : iPhone 4 Myke : iPod Video Jason : iPod Shuffle (2nd generation) Myke : iPod Touch (1st generation) Jason : iPhone 12 mini Myke : iMac Pro Jason : M4 Mac mini Myke : Magic Trackpad 2 Jason : Apple Watch Sport Band Myke : Vision Pro Jason : Apple Disk II Myke : MagSafe Charger for Mac Jason : iPad Smart Folio Myke : iPhone 12 Pro Jason : Apple Watch Ultra Myke : M1 MacBook Pro Jason : iPhone 17 Pro Myke : Apple TV 4K (2nd generation) Jason : Magic Keyboard with Touch ID Myke : AirPods (1st generation) Jason : eMate 300 Myke : iPhone 3G Jason : iPod Socks Myke : iPod Shuffle (1st Generation) Get Upgrade+. More content, no ads. Submit Feedback Tim Cook to become Apple Executive Chairman John Ternus to become Apple CEO - Apple Community Letter from Tim - Apple Johny Srouji named Apple’s Chief Hardware Officer - Apple Apple in China – Patrick McGee – Amazon The iPhone 4 was scandalous, but influential – Six Colors How the Apple II created the core of personal computing | The Verge The Verge's Top 50 Apple Products iPad Pro Cursor with Craig Federighi - YouTube Vote! Who Had The Best Draft List?

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This episode was published on Apr 20, 2026.

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