
Why CLOs Are Suddenly DeFi's Hottest Yield Play
Jul 10, 2026 - 7:49
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Three years ago, Chris Perkins sat across from Terry Duffy in Congress and made the case for perpetuals. Duffy pushed back — hard. Now Duffy's CME is suing the very regulator that finally allowed them. The CME argues Bit...
Are Perpetuals Swaps or Futures? The CME Picks a Fight is an episode from Unchained by Laura Shin. Three years ago, Chris Perkins sat across from Terry Duffy in Congress and made the case for perpetuals. Duffy pushed back — hard. Now Duffy'...
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Published Jun 24, 2026, 11:17 long, audio available.