
Why CLOs Are Suddenly DeFi's Hottest Yield Play
Jul 10, 2026 - 7:49
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Carmen Li thought it was a joke when a perpetual futures marketplace asked her to become the market maker for her own index. It wasn't. In this segment from Bits + Bips: The Interview, she walks Steven Ehrlich through th...
A Perp Venue Asked Her to Trade Her Own Benchmark. She Said No is an episode from Unchained by Laura Shin. Carmen Li thought it was a joke when a perpetual futures marketplace asked her to become the market maker for her own index. It wasn'...
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Published Jun 30, 2026, 8:11 long, audio available.