Finding human-AI flow: With Shelley Evenson

This week on Catalyst, guest host Jod Kaftan sits down with designer and expert in human-centered AI, Shelley Evenson. Shelley shares her insights on how designers and teams can achieve human-AI flow and how to spot the warning signs that a team is drifting into the realm of AI slop. Jod and Shelley also discuss the need for change management in AI transformations and talk about who in an organization should own an AI transformation? Is it HR? Is it IT? According to Shelley it’s a team endeavour that should start at the very top, with the CEO. Please note that the views expressed may not necessarily be those of NTT DATA Links: Shelley Evenson Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Experience Learn more about Launch by NTT DATA See Privacy Policy at and California Privacy Notice at .

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Finding human-AI flow: With Shelley Evenson is an episode from Track Changes by Launch by NTT DATA.

This episode is 00:37:46 long.

This episode was published on Mar 3, 2026.

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