WORK Conversations: The HR Problems No One Wants to Admit

Meet Katrina Gazarian. She’s an HR professional who decided the best way to talk about work right now was through satire, whiskey, and a YouTube show called Drunk at Work . Here’s what I liked about this conversation and why you should listen: Katrina has seen the same problems play out across every kind of company: Bad communication. Poor leadership. Control disguised as process. HR taking the heat for decisions they did not make. She talks honestly about what people get right and wrong about HR, why so many workers are angry right now, and why humor has become such a release valve for how work actually feels. We also get into Gen Z, letting go of control, focusing on the quality of your work instead of the chaos around you, and why most people would be better off worrying less and executing better. If work has been making you tired, cynical, or angry lately, this one will feel familiar. And maybe even a little relieving. As my friend Gayle would always say - Laugh or run. This is WORK. Conversations. Get full access to Mule Media at erikaayersbadan.substack.com/

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WORK Conversations: The HR Problems No One Wants to Admit is an episode from Token CEO by Erika Ayers Badan.

This episode is 22:26 long.

This episode was published on Jan 12, 2026.

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