Cloud War Games: Building Disaster Muscle Memory and Collaborative Resilience in DevOps Teams with Matt Lea

Welcome back to the Point Cybersecurity Podcast! On this week's episode, Rachael Lyon and Jonathan Knepher are joined by a very special guest, Matt Lea, the creator of Cloud War Games. Matt Lea shares his unique journey in cybersecurity, beginning with hacking video games as a sixth grader and evolving into a career helping startups and cloud professionals prepare for real-world outages and cyber incidents. Together, they dive into the high stakes world of cloud incident response—discussing everything from the importance of collaborative problem-solving and building muscle memory for incident management, to the risks of data silos and the dangers of single points of failure within engineering teams. Matt Lea also sheds light on trends in cloud security, the rise of AI agents (and their pitfalls), and best practices for managing credentials, technical debt, and multi-cloud strategies. Whether you're curious about cloud-based cyber "war games," learning how to empower your junior engineers, or concerned about the evolving threats posed by agentic AI, this episode offers invaluable insights from the frontline of cybersecurity. Don't miss their stories, practical advice, and a dose of humor as they navigate the fast-changing digital landscape. For links and resources discussed in this episode, please visit our show notes at

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Cloud War Games: Building Disaster Muscle Memory and Collaborative Resilience in DevOps Teams with Matt Lea is an episode from To The Point - Cybersecurity by Rachael Lyon.

This episode is 35:42 long.

This episode was published on Dec 16, 2025.

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