Inverted Pleasure in Evil - Ep. 10 - Therapeutic Theology Series

Working with clients in psychoanalysis, one of the hardest tasks is helping them to see the negative things they do without realizing it. Self-destructive habits, procrastination of important activities, reckless or careless behaviors -- these all have causes from deep inside that we can't get to without help. Freud mistakenly linked these to what he called Thanatos -- a death drive -- proposing that we had a drive of destruction directed against life. Freud saw it as a complement to the life drive -- Eros -- and he saw both as part of our nature. That's a tough one to wrap your head around. But chew on this: Freud was an atheist. The idea of a struggle between life and nothingness was probable for him. Keppe, though, takes us back a step: we're not programmed for death, so to speak. We're infused with and immersed in life and goodness. Happiness and success is our natural inheritance then. Keppe's eminently hopeful perspective sees problems and anguish as common, but not inevitable parts of nature. For Keppe, what goes wrong circles back to human doings -- both individually and collectively. Our problem lies in psychological inversion; in a strange way, we're attracted to the dark side, and often repulsed by the good. Not by nature, then, but by choice. An even more difficult thing to wrap your head around then. The Inverted Pleasure in Evil, our episode this time on Therapeutic Theology. Click here to listen to this episode .

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Inverted Pleasure in Evil - Ep. 10 - Therapeutic Theology Series is an episode from Thinking With Somebody Else's Head by Richard Lloyd Jones.

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This episode was published on Nov 27, 2025.

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