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434: ‘Knee-Jerk Contrarian’, With Dan Frommer

The Talk Show With John Gruber by John Gruber

Nov 18, 202501:54:02Technology

Special guest Dan Frommer returns to the show. Topics include the indie media business, the iPhone Pocket, the iPhone Air (including rumors about the second generation model), AI “personalities”, and five years of Apple...

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434: ‘Knee-Jerk Contrarian’, With Dan Frommer is an episode from The Talk Show With John Gruber by John Gruber. Special guest Dan Frommer returns to the show. Topics include the indie media business, the iPhone Pocket, the iPhone Air (inclu...

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