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427: ‘The Shift-2 Crowd’, With Jason Snell

The Talk Show With John Gruber by John Gruber

Jul 25, 202502:12:15Technology

Jason Snell returns to the show to talk about the early PC platform rivalries of the 1980s, iOS 26 leaks (and Apple suing YouTuber Jon Prosser), the various Apple OS 26 public betas and the state of Liquid Glass, and mor...

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427: ‘The Shift-2 Crowd’, With Jason Snell is an episode from The Talk Show With John Gruber by John Gruber. Jason Snell returns to the show to talk about the early PC platform rivalries of the 1980s, iOS 26 leaks (and Apple suing YouTuber...

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Published Jul 25, 2025, 02:12:15 long, audio available.

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