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Why Messy Cities Depend On People Who Take Action

The Strong Towns Podcast by Strong Towns

Chuck and Kevin Klinkenberg explore why progress comes from people who stop waiting for permission and start doing things locally. They look at incremental developers, neighborhood groups, and the limits of top-down syst...

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Why Messy Cities Depend On People Who Take Action is an episode from The Strong Towns Podcast by Strong Towns. Chuck and Kevin Klinkenberg explore why progress comes from people who stop waiting for permission and start doing things locally...

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Published Apr 13, 2026, 56:47 long, audio available.

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Chuck and Kevin Klinkenberg explore why progress comes from people who stop waiting for permission and start doing things locally. They look at incremental developers, neighborhood groups, and the limits of top-down systems in cities like Kansas City. Along the way, they wrestle with incentives, housing, and how much order a city actually needs. Additional Show Notes Kevin Klinkenberg (LinkedIn) The Messy City Podcast (Spotify) The Messy City (Substack) The Messy City (Site) Chuck Marohn (Substack) This podcast is made possible by Strong Towns members. Thank you!

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Published Apr 13, 2026 and 56:47 long