#394: "Technology Is NOT the Future of Education" - The CEO of 36 Schools, Alan Williamson on Education, Leadership & Sacrifice

He grew up on a council housing estate in the Shetland Islands. His family were coal miners and civil servants. He had no connections, no privilege, and no clear path. Today, he runs one of the UAE's largest education groups — 36 schools, 36 nurseries, 50,000 students, and a publicly listed company worth over a billion dirhams. In this episode, Spencer sits down with Alan Williamson , CEO of Taaleem, for one of the most refreshingly honest conversations about education, leadership, and the cost of ambition. Alan doesn't sugarcoat anything. He'll tell you that technology is not the future of education. That exam should be deleted overnight. That his biggest leadership flaw is not listening. And that for all his professional success, the person he feels he's let down most is his whole family. From navigating a regional geopolitical crisis to making bold billion-dirham acquisitions, from the rugby field that gave him confidence to the boardroom decisions that kept him up at night, this is a conversation about what it really takes to lead at the highest level and what it quietly costs you. Whether you're a parent choosing a school, a leader questioning your own values, or someone who built everything from nothing and wonders if it was worth it, this episode will make you think. Timestamps: 00:00 – Introducing Alan and what makes him different from most CEOs 01:15 – What is Taaleem? 36 schools, 50,000 students, and a 21-year story 03:42 – How Dubai's inspection system turbocharges school quality like nowhere else in the world 07:53 – The international teacher recruitment crisis and why Dubai still wins 11:52 – How to actually choose the right school for your child in Dubai 17:48 – Are UAE school fees good value ? The honest comparison with UK independent schools 22:22 – Leading through geopolitical crisis: sleepless nights, a billion-dirham bet, and staying calm 28:00 – Growth anxiety, M&A opportunities, and being the knight in shining armor 33:02 – Should schools be doing more to help struggling parents and entrepreneurs? 41:52 – Growing up on a council estate in Shetland: where his drive really came from 50:47 – Feeling like an outsider at university and how rugby changed everything 54:30 – The biggest sacrifice he made to be successful: missing family to referee international rugby 58:32 – Would he do it all the same way again? His most honest answer 01:01:13 – When his working-class values clashed with running a profit-driven company 01:05:21 – His most unpopular opinion: technology is NOT the future of education 01:09:06 – What great teachers actually do that most people forget 01:13:19 – How to prepare children for jobs that don't exist yet 01:16:49 – University vs. apprenticeships: why one path is not better than the other 01:18:39 – Quickfire: are exams outdated, what skill matters more than grades, and who should Spencer interview next? Follow Spencer Lodge on Social Media: Follow Alan Williamson on Social Media :

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#394: "Technology Is NOT the Future of Education" - The CEO of 36 Schools, Alan Williamson on Education, Leadership & Sacrifice is an episode from The Spencer Lodge Podcast by Spencer Lodge.

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This episode was published on Apr 20, 2026.

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