133: Eliminating the ASWB exam from the Illinois LSW law: Interview with Joel Rubin, LSW

Episode 133: In today's interview, NASW-IL Executive Director, Joel Rubin, and I talk about the legislative process that NASW-IL went through to eliminate the requirement that BSW and MSW graduates from accredited social work programs in Illinois had to take the ASWB licensing exam in order to get their LSW. Joel shares the story about how and why the legislation changed. We talked about how the legislative process works, from connecting with other social workers online about pressing issues, to reaching out to NASW staff and volunteer board members, supporting prospective legislative candidates, meeting with your elected officials and how NASW state chapters serve as a resource for social workers and legislators. You can read a transcript of today's interview at You can connect with other social workers at the Social Work Podcast Facebook page at or follow the Twitter feed at

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133: Eliminating the ASWB exam from the Illinois LSW law: Interview with Joel Rubin, LSW is an episode from The Social Work Podcast by Jonathan B. Singer, Ph.D., LCSW.

This episode is 27:33 long.

This episode was published on Feb 14, 2023.

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