Episode 14 (S8). Sitting With Uncertainty

We have a new episode for you! In this conversation, we explore the systemic concept of safe uncertainty, originally developed by Barry Mason, and reflect on what this idea means within organisations, professional practice and our own experiences in social work. What does it mean for professionals and organisations to hold both safety and uncertainty at the same time? In systems that often prioritise control, answers and certainty, how can curiosity, reflection and openness create space for more thoughtful and ethical practice? In this episode, we discuss how the concept of safe uncertainty can challenge rigid decision-making and encourage organisations to move away from defensive cultures towards environments that value learning, collaboration and reflection. Drawing on our experiences in social work and organisational systems, we explore the tensions between accountability and curiosity, and how fear, risk management and hierarchy can sometimes limit meaningful dialogue. We also reflect on how adopting a stance of safe uncertainty can support better relationships with the people we work alongside, recognising complexity, valuing different perspectives and resisting the pressure to rush towards simple answers in complex situations. This episode invites listeners to think differently about certainty, organisational culture and the importance of curiosity in practice. Tune in, share and join the conversation. 📲 Instagram: @matterspodcast 💼 LinkedIn: Social Matters 🌍 Website: socialmatters.org.uk

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Episode 14 (S8). Sitting With Uncertainty is an episode from The Social Matters Podcast by Nadia, Fran, Eugene .

This episode is 27:15 long.

This episode was published on Mar 15, 2026.

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