The RunOut #159: Fallon Rowe Climbs Through Trauma and Into Strength

Fallon Rowe is a climber, writer, coach, teacher, researcher, and many more things. Her new book is called Pay No Mind: A Memoir of Climbing, Abuse, and Survival. Beyond discussing the traumatic story that she tells in her book, we enjoyed listening to Fallon bring her always thoughtful, grounded perspective to the way she approaches movement, risk, and life on the rock. But first, we sit down to talk about The Art of Suffering. No, not the kind of suffering we normally describe of getting to Rifle and finding nowhere to park. The kind of suffering that only one of alpinism’s most enigmatic and thoughtful philosophers could articulate: Voytek Kurtkyka, the legendary Polish climber.  Our final bit comes from climber, listener, and drummer Todd Hammond, and the Utah-based band The Statuettes. This track is called The of End of Everything. Show Notes Follow Fallon Rowe:  “Pay No Mind: A Memoir of Climbing, Abuse, and Survival” at DiAngelo Books:  Voytek Kurtyka: “The Art of Suffering”:  More on Voytek:  The Statuettes on Bandcamp:  Become a RunOut Rope Gun! Support our podcast and increase your RunOut runtime. Bonus episodes, AMA, and more will be available to our Rope Guns. Thank you for your support! Contact us Send ideas, voicemail, feedback and more. andrew@runoutpodcast.com // chris@runoutpodcast.com

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The RunOut #159: Fallon Rowe Climbs Through Trauma and Into Strength is an episode from The RunOut Podcast by Andrew Bisharat & Chris Kalous.

This episode is 1:33:35 long.

This episode was published on Nov 26, 2025.

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