The History Wars and America at 250, with the Historian Jill Lepore

The two-hundred-and-fiftieth anniversary of the Declaration of Independence arrives during intense disputes about American history, as the Trump Administration demands a more glorifying view of the nation’s past at federally run historical sites and in federally funded projects. The staff writer Jill Lepore (who won the Pulitzer Prize in History this month for her book “ We the People: A History of the U.S. Constitution ”) guest-hosts a special episode of The New Yorker Radio Hour about this fraught moment, reflecting on the responsibility of academic historians to shape the public debate. She compares our moment with the bicentennial—which fell in the wake of the Vietnam War and the scandals of Richard Nixon’s Presidency—in a conversation with the Yale historian Beverly Gage. Lepore looks at the nature of the country’s war over history with Jelani Cobb , the dean of Columbia Journalism School and a staff writer at The New Yorker . They discuss the Donald Trump-approved “Freedom 250” projection on the Washington Monument, and talk about how Americans can meaningfully participate in the semiquincentennial. If “we’re sitting around waiting for the occupant of the White House to tell us what American history means,” Lepore says, “you just kind of want to walk into traffic.” Further reading: America at 250 , a special issue of The New Yorker “ Was the Declaration of Independence Better Before the Edits? ,” by Jill Lepore “ Scandal, Protest, Goofiness, and Grandeur at the U.S. Bicentennial ,” by Jill Lepore “ Two Hundred and Fifty Years of Complicated Commemorations,” by Jelani Cobb “ This Land Is Your Land: A Road Trip Through U.S. History ,” by Beverly Gage See the Washington Roundtable live at 92NY on June 4th. The Political Scene draws on the reporting and analysis found in The New Yorker for lively conversations about the big questions in American politics. Join the magazine’s writers and editors as they put into context the latest news—about elections, the economy, the White House, the Supreme Court, and much more. New episodes are available three times a week. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

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