Episode 194: Bending Not Breaking

<p>In "Bending Not Breaking," Dr. Osterholm and Chris Dall discuss recent layoffs and layoff reversals at the CDC, comments from the administration on the MMR vaccine, and the latest respiratory virus data. Dr. Osterholm also shares an update on pertussis cases and answers an ID Query about herd immunity.</p> <p>Resources for vaccine and public health advocacy:</p> <p><a href=" for Vaccines</strong></a></p> <p><a href=" Fighting Flu</strong></a></p> <p><a href=" Your Family</strong></a></p> <p><a href=" <p><a href=" Reserve Corps</strong></a></p> <p>Learn more about the <a href=" Integrity Project</strong></a></p> <p><a href=" EPISODES</strong></a>      </p> <p><a href=" THIS PODCAST</strong></a></p>

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This episode was published on Oct 16, 2025.

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