“If you tell me we're not going to build, then probably replace me. There is no need for having me.” Karim Awad on leading EFG Hermes mid-revolution, a decade of building, and why legacy is measured by what remains after you leave​

Karim Awad walked into EFG Hermes at one of the most turbulent moments in Egypt's recent history — a company caught mid-revolution, a bruised brand, and a region that wasn't sure it wanted to stabilise.​ What he did next is what this conversation is about.​ Karim and Hashem talked about the two years of firefighting that most people never saw — before the decade of expansion that everyone did. About the quiet conviction that drove him to turn a pure-play investment bank into a full-fledged financial services group. And about the question we found most interesting: how does Karim measure success?​ His answer surprised Hashem.​ Chapters: 0:00 Coming up.. 3:48 The firefighting phase 13:57 Expanding regionally and cementing the brand 23:37 Acquisitions and partnerships 32:19 Growth and future aspirations 43:51 Shareholder expectations 47:05 Personal legacy

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“If you tell me we're not going to build, then probably replace me. There is no need for having me.” Karim Awad on leading EFG Hermes mid-revolution, a decade of building, and why legacy is measured by what remains after you leave​ is an episode from The Lighthouse Conversations by The Lighthouse.

This episode is 53:03 long.

This episode was published on Apr 1, 2026.

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