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The Law, such as it is

Lawrence Lessig

An exploration of a broken, if beautiful, institution, the law, and tradition, America. Season one told the story of a case, LESSIG v. NYT. Season two begins the story about a country, Ameri...

Episodes

20 of 23 episodes

The Closing Argument

In this final episode, Lessig pulls together the argument from across the season. Why did this happen? What should happen next?

01:52:01May 6, 2026

Unpacking "Allegation 3"

In this episode, we review Allegation 3, and reveal the simple omission that undermined the investigation into this allegation.

48:44Apr 15, 2026

Dismantling "Allegation 4"

We continue in this episode by unpacking the charges behind allegation number 4, which involved a paper written 15 years ago.

58:32Jan 30, 2026

Allegation 2, continued

Clarifying one additional point about Allegation 2 in less than ten minutes.

08:31Dec 1, 2025

Dismantling "Allegation 2"

So far, this podcast has considered the procedural flaws that marred the process that led to Francesca Gino's tenure being revoked. With thi...

59:02Nov 17, 2025

Introduction

Francesca Gino was a superstar at the Harvard Business School. This year, she was fired for academic misconduct. In this season, we'll explo...

24:09Aug 21, 2025

Episode 8 - System Error

Lessig talks to Rob Reich, Jeremy M. Weinstein and Mehran Sahami about their new book, SYSTEM ERROR — which unpacks the effect of technology...

01:16:14Nov 9, 2021

Episode 7 - David Vine

American University Professor David Vine has developed a powerful critique of the war mentality that America takes for granted. We argue abo...

01:22:50Sep 30, 2021

Episode 6 - Daniel Immerwahr

A discussion with Daniel Immerwahr about his book, How to Hide An Empire . The United States is not comprised solely of states. As well as s...

01:01:14Sep 23, 2021

Episode 5 - Zephyr Teachout

A discussion with Zephyr Teachout about her book, Break 'Em Up . Zephyr is the most important thinker on the Democratic left. This conversat...

01:16:08Sep 16, 2021

Episode 4 - Barry Lynn

A discussion with Barry Lynn about his new book, Liberty from All Masters . There is a kind of competitive market that the American story pr...

01:10:45Sep 9, 2021

Episode 3 - Stephen Kinzer

A discussion with Stephen Kinzer about his book, Overthrow . Overthrow tells the story of the many times the United States has intervened di...

01:24:31Sep 2, 2021

Episode 2 - Edward Snowden

A discussion with Edward Snowden about his new book, Permanent Record . In 2013, Snowden revealed to the world the extent of the US governme...

01:47:58Aug 26, 2021

Episode 1 - Andrew Bacevich

A discussion with Andrew Bacevich about his new book, After the Apocolypse . Bacevich is America's most thoughtful conservative skeptic abou...

01:06:46Aug 19, 2021

Season 2 Intro

This is an introduction of this season and ideas that the season will explore. Anti-empire, privacy, and competition: these ideas, or as I w...

10:38Aug 12, 2021

EP 4 - Case Closed

In a surprising twist, the New York Times changed its headline and lede. In this episode, Lessig explains the decision to withdraw the case.

32:27Jul 1, 2020