156. The Lie of Scarcity: Creating a New Dream for the Planet with Lynne Twist & Sara Vetter

What if the feeling that there’s “not enough” isn’t actually true—but something you’ve been taught to believe? And what might shift if your relationship with money became rooted in sufficiency instead of scarcity? What if scarcity isn’t a reality—but a story we’ve all been living inside? In this episode, I sit down with Lynne Twist and Sara Vetter for one of the most expansive conversations we’ve had on this podcast—about money, purpose, and what it means to create a different future for our planet. We explore the idea that the dominant paradigm we’ve been operating in—the belief that there’s not enough, that we have to compete, that someone will inevitably be left out—is actually a lie. And how that belief shapes not only our financial lives, but the way we relate to each other and the world. Lynne shares her decades of work in global philanthropy and the profound realization that people living in conditions of hunger are not “less than”—that what’s lacking is not their worth, but their circumstances. And Sara opens up about her own journey from external success and privilege into a deeper, more meaningful relationship with money and purpose. We talk about sufficiency—not as a number, but as a state of being. We explore what happens when we shift from accumulation to contribution, from fear to trust, and from isolation to connection. This conversation is ultimately an invitation to look at your own relationship with money—and to consider the possibility that true wealth lives not in what you have, but in how you engage with your life. “The paradigm of scarcity—that there’s not enough to go around—is a lie.” –Lynne Twist “Money does not bring you happiness.” –Sara Vetter 🎤 Let’s Dive into the Good Stuff on Plenty 🎤 00:24 Guest Introduction and Episode Themes (Lynn Twist & Sarah Vedder) 03:31 Lynn's Upbringing, Father's Death and Path to Activism 07:22 Lynn on Money, Respect and Ethical Fundraising 09:16 Sarah's Money Story and Personal Transformation 25:13 How Lynn and Sarah Met — Partnership and Complementary Strengths 28:06 Wealth, Scarcity Paradigm and the Truth of Sufficiency 35:33 Pachamama Alliance — Amazon Conservation and Indigenous Partnership 42:48 The Sophia Century and Divine Feminine Wisdom 48:07 Manifestation & Full‑Circle Story (Oprah, Charlotte and Synchronicity) 59:46 How to Support, Get Involved and Closing Resources Links and Resources: Recalibration Field The Big Money decision Matrix Connect with Lynne Twist & Sara Vetter: The Soul of Money Living a committed life Pachamama Alliance Remarkable Women's Journey Soul of Money Institute ✨ Ready for Income That Actually Builds Something? If you're capable, ambitious, and earning well — but your financial life still feels like something you have to hold together — this one's for you. The free Recalibration Field Guide is a diagnostic companion to the Recalibration Series here on Plenty. It's built to take what you're hearing in the series and locate it precisely in your money ecosystem — so you can see exactly where to go next. Most people recognize themselves within the first five minutes. Inside the Field Guide, you'll explore: 🔹 The Four Hidden Money Ecosystem States — Overdrive, Constriction, Diffusion, and Stewarded — and which one your money is actually running in right now 🔹 The Wealth Stewardship Pyramid — the sequence wealth actually builds through, and how to reorient your ambition toward architecture instead of urgency 🔹 The Four-Leaks Diagnostic — where money and energy are escaping your system, not hypothetically, but in your specific income pattern and situation 🔹 The Energetics → Engineering → Expression Map — why surface-level financial fixes haven't worked, and what to do instead 🔹 Deep Reflection Prompts — built around the central question the series raises: Why do I still feel like I'm the one who has to make everything happen, even when things are going well? This isn't a budgeting tool. It's not a workbook. It's a diagnostic instrument for self-led leaders who are ready to stop being the sole infrastructure of their own financial life — and build something that actually holds. 👉 Download the free Recalibration Field Guide at katenorthrup.com/fieldguide Because making more money is powerful. But building the architecture that makes what you earn actually stay, compound, and support your life? That's the upgrade. ✨

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156. The Lie of Scarcity: Creating a New Dream for the Planet with Lynne Twist & Sara Vetter is an episode from The Kate & Mike Show: Life, Love, and Business by Kate Northrup.

This episode is 63:42 long.

This episode was published on Apr 28, 2026.

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