SpaceXAI Exodus, OpenAI’s Apple Partnership Sours, iPhone Engineer on Apple’s Roadmap & Steve Jobs

Elon Musk reporter Theo Wayt discusses the talent exodus at SpaceX AI and Elon Musk’s "DOGE-style" restructuring of the company. We also talk with Rocket Drew about closing statements in the Musk v. OpenAI trial as well as Co-Executive Editor Martin Peers & Jason Dean, SF Bureau Chief, about the brewing conflict between OpenAI and Apple. Lastly, we get into the future of Apple with iPhone engineer and Nest Co-founder Matt Rogers and the nuclear energy race with Jemima McEvoy. Articles discussed on this episode:

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This episode was published on May 15, 2026.

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