INTERVIEW: Is There an Instrument Other Than Thought? Keith Berwick with Krishnamurti Part 2

Krishnamurti in Conversation with Keith Berwick (Part 2) You're listening to The Immeasurable Podcast. Recorded in Los Angeles in 1983, this second part of a conversation between J. Krishnamurti and journalist Keith Berwick continues the inquiry into the nature of the self and the limits of thought. Here, Krishnamurti questions authority in all its forms—religious, political, psychological—and examines the reliance on systems, methods, and beliefs. He returns repeatedly to thought: its extraordinary capacity to create knowledge and culture, and its equally destructive role in creating fear, division, and conflict. The conversation touches on love, desire, meditation, and intelligence, but resists explanation and prescription. Instead, it raises a central question that runs through the entire exchange: whether thought is the sole instrument by which understanding takes place. This episode completes the interview. Click here to listen to part one. Follow The Immeasurable on Instagram (@krishnamurtifoundationamerica) Follow The Immeasurable on Tiktok (@j.krishnamurti)

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INTERVIEW: Is There an Instrument Other Than Thought? Keith Berwick with Krishnamurti Part 2 is an episode from The Immeasurable Podcast by Krishnamurti Center, Ojai, CA.

This episode is 53:33 long.

This episode was published on Jan 20, 2026.

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