The Grant Williams Podcast Ep. 120 - Danielle DiMartino Booth

In the latest episode of The Grant Williams Podcast, I welcome Danielle DiMartino Booth back for a wide-ranging conversation about a macro backdrop that feels increasingly detached from the official story. Danielle explains why consumer sentiment—particularly rising expectations of unemployment—is flashing a far darker signal than headline labour data suggests, and why she believes the average household is under far more pressure than policymakers are willing to admit. From hidden weakness in the job market to the spread of gambling, speculation, and buy now, pay later behaviour, our discussion paints a picture of an economy held together by coping mechanisms, financial stress, and a deepening sense that something important is missing beneath the surface. Every episode of the Grant Williams podcast, including This Week In Doom, The End Game, The Super Terrific Happy Hour, The Narrative Game, Kaos Theory, Shifts Happen and The Hundred Year Pivot, is available to Copper and Silver Tier subscribers at my website Copper Tier subscribers get access to all podcasts, while members of the Silver Tier get both the podcasts and my monthly newsletter, Things That Make You Go Hmmm…

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The Grant Williams Podcast Ep. 120 - Danielle DiMartino Booth is an episode from The Grant Williams Podcast by Grant Williams.

This episode is 30:00 long.

This episode was published on Apr 23, 2026.

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