Marc Lipsitch on Playing Pandemic Roulette in the Lab

Yascha Mounk and Marc Lipsitch also discuss how worried we should be about Hantavirus and Ebola. Marc Lipsitch is the Berberian Professor at Stanford University, with appointments in Infectious Diseases, Biology, and the Center for International Security and Cooperation. In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Marc Lipsitch discuss the good, the bad, and the ugly of gain-of-function research, how scientific incentives may be encouraging risky experimentation—and the recent outbreaks of hantavirus and ebola. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: leonora.barclay@persuasion.community Podcast production by Mickey Freeland and Leonora Barclay. Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google X: @Yascha_Mounk & @JoinPersuasion YouTube: Yascha Mounk, Persuasion LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Marc Lipsitch on Playing Pandemic Roulette in the Lab is an episode from The Good Fight by Yascha Mounk.

This episode is 70:43 long.

This episode was published on May 19, 2026.

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