Trump Voters Say 'Nope' to the Pope (with Jonathan V. Last)

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit Donald Trump and Pope Leo XIV are probably the two most prominent Americans in the world right now, and they're fighting. So we asked American Catholics (including those who voted for Trump) what they thought of their feud, and about Trump's Truth Social Post depicting himself as Jesus. JVL returns to the show with some choice words for some of his fellow Catholics, and discusses the role the Catholic Church has played in American politics more broadly. Get tickets to The Bulwark's May live shows in San Diego and Los Angeles ! Pre-order Sarah’s book, How to Eat an Elephant, coming in September! Watch, listen, and leave a comment . Hit that like 🤍 button and share this episode with a friend. Ad-free editions are available exclusively for Bulwark+ members. Upgrade now to listen without ads and to join the community in the comments. The Focus Group with Sarah Longwell is available wherever you get your podcasts and on YouTube. Click to find the show or add this podcast to your player of choice, here .

You can listen to Trump Voters Say 'Nope' to the Pope (with Jonathan V. Last) online on Radio and Podcast. Open the player on this page to stream the available audio.

Trump Voters Say 'Nope' to the Pope (with Jonathan V. Last) is an episode from The Focus Group Podcast by The Bulwark.

This episode is 23:15 long.

This episode was published on Apr 18, 2026.

Yes. Use the heart button on the episode page to add it to your favorite episodes list.

Yes. This page shows related episodes from The Focus Group Podcast when more episodes are available from the podcast feed.