DEBATE: Ethics of Eating Animals—Is Anyone Innocent? Vegan vs Carnivore

Enter the code ELLENFISHER for 10% off your Ra Optics order Enter the code ELLEN for 15% off your first Anima Mundi Herbals order: Thank you to our sponsors for today’s episode! I’m joined by Filmmaker Kam Waters and Carnivore Ray for this compelling debate of one of the most emotionally charged topics of our time. Together we explore the ethical, spiritual, and biological questions behind how we eat. We examine animal suffering, human health, moral responsibility, and whether it’s possible to honor animal life and eat them. Kameron Waters is the filmmaker behind Christspiracy, now re-released as WWJD, streaming free at . The question What Would Jesus Do? launched a 16-year journey into Scripture, away from animal exploitation and consumption, and toward the liberation of animals and a lived vision of the Kingdom of Heaven—marked by thriving physical, mental, and spiritual health, with evidence to support it. Carnivore Ray (Ray Hicks) shares his personal journey of adopting a carnivore diet after years of struggling with depression and physical health challenges. Through eating primarily meat, eggs, and fish, Ray experienced dramatic improvements that reshaped his views on nutrition, ethics, and human biology. His story has inspired an online community and the carnivore diet has fueled widespread debate about whether animal-based diets can align with compassion, faith, and ethical responsibility WHERE TO FIND RAY: Instagram YouTube WHERE TO FIND KAM: WWJD film: WWJD Film Instagram Personal instagram ✨ Discover More with Me ✨ 🙌🏼 Transform Your Birth Experience with ⁠The Empowered Pregnancy & Birth Course⁠ : 📚 get my ⁠ recipe Ebooks:⁠ Connect with me on Instagram: ⁠@theellenfisherpodcast ⁠ ⁠@ellenfisher ⁠ 🎧 LISTEN on ⁠Apple Podcast⁠ : 🎶 LISTEN on ⁠Spotify⁠ : Elevate your videos with record-label quality music from ⁠Musicbed⁠ :

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DEBATE: Ethics of Eating Animals—Is Anyone Innocent? Vegan vs Carnivore is an episode from The Ellen Fisher Podcast by Ellen Fisher.

This episode is 02:39:42 long.

This episode was published on Jan 20, 2026.

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