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Postdoc Researcher Sergei joins Murch and Jonas to talk about channel balance probing in Lightning, privacy concerns in general, and the importance of researcher-developer collaboration. We discuss: - Sergei's background...
Sergei Tikhomirov and Lightning privacy - Episode 19 is an episode from The Chaincode Podcast by Chaincode Labs. Postdoc Researcher Sergei joins Murch and Jonas to talk about channel balance probing in Lightning, privacy concerns in general...
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Postdoc Researcher Sergei joins Murch and Jonas to talk about channel balance probing in Lightning, privacy concerns in general, and the importance of researcher-developer collaboration. We discuss: - Sergei's background (1:50) - Sergei's homepage with links to all prior research - Lightning basics (2:50) - Why LN payments fail (3:40) - Why privacy is important (5:30) - Privacy potential of Lightning vs L1 Bitcoin (6:40) - How probing works (8:40) - Why is balance discovery bad? (11:30) - Persistent identities in Lightning (13:00) - Multi-vector security model and trade-offs (17:45) - "Twitter for your bank account" meme (20:20) - The danger of overestimating Bitcoin's privacy (21:00) - Lightning integrations and walled gardens (22:00) - Lightning Service Providers and LN's centralized topology (23:05) - LNBIG booth in El Salvador (25:30) - Potential oligopoly of large nodes (27:15) - Probing parallel channels (28:30) - Analysis and Probing of Parallel Channels paper - Combining probing with jamming (33:00) - The limit on in-flight payments (36:00) - StackExchange answer about transaction size limit - Bad and good probing (41:20) - Countermeasures and reputation (44:00) Overview of anti-jamming measures - Hub-and-spoke terminology and aviation analogy (49:00) - Doing research in Bitcoin and Lightning (53:10) - Why Bitcoin is unique (55:10) - Researcher-developer collaboration (58:00) Related research: - On the Difficulty... -- the first paper about LN balance probing - An Empirical Analysis paper about three LN attack vectors including probing - Counting Down Thunder paper about timing attacks - Congestion Attacks paper about jamming - Cross-layer Deanonymization paper about linking L1 and L2 - Flood & Loot paper about malicious fee negotiation strategies - Hijacking Routes paper about adversarial fee undercutting Thanks to Justin for the sound engineering.
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