Is Wokeness a Status Flex? with Musa al-Gharbi

Join Atlas Society CEO Jennifer Grossman for the 286th episode of Objectively Speaking, where she sits down with sociologist Musa al-Gharbi to discuss his book "We Have Never Been Woke: The Cultural Contradictions of a New Elite," which examines the history and political economy of the symbolic professions from the interwar period through the present, tracing how journalists, academics, activists, and knowledge-sector professionals came to wield outsized cultural influence. A sociologist and associate professor in the School of Communication and Journalism at Stony Brook University, Al-Ghabri brings a rigorous, data-driven approach to understanding today’s ideological battles. He is also a prolific writer of many articles, including those posted to his Substack, Symbolic Capital(ism).

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Is Wokeness a Status Flex? with Musa al-Gharbi is an episode from The Atlas Society Presents - The Atlas Society Asks by The Atlas Society.

This episode is 00:59:16 long.

This episode was published on Jan 21, 2026.

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