Ely Ratner - Does Asia Need a Collective Defense Pact?

Mike joins Ely Ratner, Principal at The Marathon Initiative and Senior Adviser at Clarion Strategies. Previously he was Assistant Secretary of Defense for Indo-Pacific Security Affairs during the Biden administration, and before that he was Executive Vice President and Director of Studies at the Center for a New American Security (CNAS). They discuss the strategic competition with China, the difficulties and opportunities around the China challenge, what the most significant things the U.S. did relating to allies and partners during the Biden Administration, and the case for a Pacific defense pact.

You can listen to Ely Ratner - Does Asia Need a Collective Defense Pact? online on Radio and Podcast. Open the player on this page to stream the available audio.

Ely Ratner - Does Asia Need a Collective Defense Pact? is an episode from The Asia Chessboard by Center for Strategic and International Studies.

This episode is 43:27 long.

This episode was published on Jan 6, 2026.

Yes. Use the heart button on the episode page to add it to your favorite episodes list.

Yes. This page shows related episodes from The Asia Chessboard when more episodes are available from the podcast feed.